0,58,0,Manufactures and dealer of the Efika.
58,157,0,He came to join us, a Linux betatester
157,270,0,He's doing betatest job, and came to tell us more|about the Linux aspects,
283,385,0,while I will try to talk about the Amiga aspects
385,433,0,as far as it's tied to the Amiga of course
433,496,0,as there is always an ongoing debate over it.
496,604,0,At first let's talk about the hardware.
604,736,0,Now, this is an Efika, taken apart.
736,847,0,It's a PowerPC based hardware.
847,1016,0,We will later explain why it's good that it's|this small and seems to be so simple.
1016,1223,0,As we all know, all over the desktop and |everywhere X86 CPU's are pushing ahead
1224,1291,0,even our main sponsor is Intel, |and there's nothing wrong with it.
1291,1485,0,But my personal opinion is, that the world,|behind this marketing layer
1485,1554,0,is moved ahead by different CPU types.
1554,1630,0,You've just seen the mobile presentation
1630,1820,0,and most of you may know, that most mobile|phones are built around ARM processors
1820,1862,0,save for a few outdated models.
1862,2078,0,and if you visit the console room, in all three|next gen consoles you will find Power derivative processors.
2078,2183,0,This is why we think it worths to|look for alternatives
2183,2352,0,besides the mainstream X86 processors.
2352,2488,0,The Amiga roots of this whole Efika line
2488,2627,0,start with the firm called Phase5
2627,2848,0,who developed many turbo cards, including|the only working PowerPC turbo cards for Amiga computers
2848,2918,0,but then Phase5 folded,
2918,3052,0,and most of the engineers founded|the firm called BPlan
3052,3103,0,who developed the Pegasos motherboard
3103,3279,0,which was manufactured in different models during,|if I remember right from 2002 up to 2006
3279,3388,0,but it was time to move on, 
3388,3517,0,RoHS rules and demands have changed,
3518,4024,0,and it was time to target a segment beside the desktop,|where Intel and their X86 processors dictate the rules
4024,4218,0,Despite this, the Efika motherboard we are about to show off|can even be used as a desktop computer
4218,4307,0,both with Linux, and maybe even more with MorphOS
4307,4351,0,but this you will all see from the speed
4351,4416,0,Peter Czanik will introduce Linux,
4416,4491,0,we will show you some spectacular things,
4491,4651,0,but at first I think let's talk about|the hardware capabilities of the Efika
4651,4773,0,the motherboard is this small as you can see in the box
4773,4860,0,it's a hard drive on the top of it
4861,5066,0,this box you can see is the original case it arrives in
5066,5141,0,there's a Pico PSU, this small thing is all the PSU there
5141,5200,0,it operates from a 12V external PSU
5200,5276,0,this is an IDE controller
5276,5344,0,and right below the HDD we can find the processor
5344,5400,0,and the memory too
5400,5446,0,of course all without a cooler
5446,5499,0,the entire thing takes up 4, yes four Watt
5499,5552,0,and of that 3 goes for the memory.
5552,5598,0,and 1 for the processor
5598,5738,0,there's a standard 3.3V PCI slot
5738,5888,0,and as some slots in the desktop are 5V not all|cards might work, but
5888,6018,0,most cards today support this standard.
6018,6186,0,It has another advantage, as it's relatively simple|to convert this PCI to something resembling an AGP
6186,6280,0,so there's an AGP riser like this
6280,6399,0,which enables us to use low profile AGP cards
6399,6517,0,Yes, you may as well ask if this machine is so integrated,|why the video isn't integrated as well
6517,6653,0,now as far as I know the Efika started as an experimental project
6653,6781,0,but it turned out that it can be manufactured so cheap,|and there seems to be also demand for it
6781,6838,0,that it went into production
6838,6930,0,but as new versions of the system on chip|the Efika is built around will appear
6930,7257,0,which besides the processor contains the PCI, IDE, USB, Ethernet etc.
7257,7404,0,and when it will include integrated video
7404,7498,0,this PCI slot might free up for other purposes.
7498,7621,0,The connectors at the backplate are the follows
7621,7864,0,there's the place for the low profile agp card
7864,7961,0,and it requires absolutely no cooling,|not even with the video card
7961,8211,0,so it's absolutely silent and noiseless
8211,8392,0,in this one we have a Toshiba HDD which is absolutely silent too.
8392,8503,0,there's also 2 USB
8503,8573,0,one ethernet connector
8573,8651,0,the usual sound connectors, microphone, line, etc.
8651,8819,0,also, just like on the Pegasos an SPDIF optical sound output
8819,8900,0,and there is also a serial port
8900,9145,0,which comes handy if you use the PCI slot for something else|like a Wifi card or anything
9146,9376,0,the board can be fully controlled through this serial port
9376,9460,0,even the BIOS and the firmware can be accessed through it
9460,9608,0,many of us might know Hyperterminal from Windows
9608,9786,0,you connect it to the Efika, and all BIOS|messages will show up
9786,9858,0,and you can fully control the machine through this.
9858,9986,0,Of course it's mostly for Linux use
9986,10067,0,as Linux also fully works through the serial port
10067,10304,0,so if you don't need a graphic interface, as you use it as a home server,|or any other low consumption purpose
10304,10458,0,the machine will be perfectly accessible this way.
10458,10604,0,Well, if there might be anything that I missed, let's hear your questions
10604,10690,0,Where's the PSU?
10690,10788,0,We have already mentioned it, it has an ATX PSU, this one here.
10788,10881,0,That's all the PSU there.
10881,10961,0,And also there is an external PSU providing 12V.
10961,11112,0,Here's the external PSU.
11112,11234,0,Not a big deal as well.
11234,11420,0,A fully assembled Efika with a low profile radeon,|which is not famous of it's low consumption
11420,11636,0,can be made taking below 10 Watts as Peter corrects me.
11636,11747,0,He measured it, 10 Watts then.
11747,11804,0,Including the HDD and all.
11804,11935,0,Don't know if I mentioned it, it's a 400 MHz CPU
11935,12040,0,with 128 Mb integrated memory
12040,12085,0,it may seem quite weak
12085,12128,0,but it's more than enough
12128,12321,0,as many of you might meet with my email adress,|scenergy.dfmk.hu
12321,12421,0,this machine is a 120 MHz 486 with 32 Mb ram
12421,12467,0,along with a 4 Gb HDD
12467,12540,0,and it works flawlessly for more than 8 years
12540,12657,0,and we salvaged it even in those times from the|bottom of the scrapheap
12657,12721,0,both the motherboard and the case
12722,12781,0,and it's happily working with over 30 users
12781,12888,0,so you can imagine what this machine can do if you|want to use it to similar purposes.
12888,13081,0,Now, any more questions?
13081,13269,0,When will it have MorphOS?
13269,13338,0,I don't know, and I was perfectly frank with that.
13338,13453,0,Or, I lied tho, there is MorphOS for it, and we will show it off
13453,13628,0,but when will it be released and available for the public I don't know.
13628,13680,0,We hope sometime soon.
13680,13775,0,We have a slide, I think it already displayed, the impact is near.
13775,13817,0,MorphOS 2.0
13817,13908,0,That's the starting point.
13908,13993,0,It's closer than many might like, and farther than many would like.
13993,14180,0,I think it's time for the Linux presentation
14180,14320,0,the only thing I'd say before I pass the microphone
14320,14412,0,well... no, I'd better tell it later.
14412,14460,0,Peter, please continue
14691,14815,0,Okay, it even works.
14815,14868,0,I'm Peter Czanik
14868,14946,0,called as a Genesi operative here
14946,15018,0,that may be true as an external associate
15018,15108,0,I haven't met in life with any internal operatives
15108,15193,0,even with an external only about 1.5 years ago in Brussels
15193,15351,0,but they're a good bunch, we keep in touch through the internet
15351,15478,0,it's good to work together
15479,15667,0,I think most of you know more the Pegasos and MorphOS from the Amiga side
15667,15705,0,so how does Linux comes into the picture?
15705,15807,0,At least it has been asked many times.
15807,15904,0,The major reason is financial.
15904,16061,0,I know it may be a little embarassing as an Amigan, but it's a|considerably smaller community compared to the Linux one
16061,16170,0,and after some time it turned out that it can't|maintain a company on it's own
16170,16329,0,then came an opening towards the Linux community
16329,16544,0,as it may help pay the bills, and |even support development for the Amiga line
16544,16876,0,and I joined when it turned out, and there was a need |to test different Linux distributions,
16877,16940,0,as there are rarely two similar among them.
16989,17169,0,I'm a Suse tester for about 10 years
17372,17579,0,and when the 10 OpenSuse appeared I asked BBRV
17579,17672,0,whether I could test it on their machine
17672,17811,0,when they asked for my address, which I left out from my email
17811,17898,0,and in approx. 10 days I tested OpenSuse on the Pegasos
17899,18055,0,He received a machine for free just for testing, and all this for an email.
18055,18249,0,But since then it payed out I believe.
18249,18392,0,It means that the distrib working best on Pegasos is the OpenSuse
18392,18551,0,and also working, but it's not important anymore the|Open Enterprise Server
18551,18603,0,absolutely flawlessly
18603,18675,0,the only drawback is that no new Pegasos can be bought for it.
18769,18858,0,A question also many used to ask from me is
18858,18990,0,isn't the Efika a step back?
18990,19055,0,as it is much more modest performance wise
19055,19191,0,or even if not much more, it's still weaker than the Pegasos
19191,19458,0,Those who ask the question may be right, as|computationally it's indeed weaker,
19458,19641,0,but it's like a swiss army knife, because it's small both|in it's size and consumption
19641,19819,0,it's terribly small, for me I use it for measuring, so|it needs neither HDD or video
19819,19970,0,it's peak consumption is 4 Watts, but usually I|measure 2-3 Watts
19970,20084,0,when I control an instrument through the serial port
20084,20198,0,and it belongs quite to the insignificant category
20198,20438,0,from this you can see that it can be used for many purposes.|It can also be used as a desktop machine
20438,20615,0,the only thing you have to pay attention to not to use|the most demanding applications available
20615,20865,0,and if you do so, you can achieve the same functionality|as with a 3-4 GHz P IV
20865,21076,0,and the over advertised Core 2 Duo is absolutely|unnecessary on the desk of a secretary
21076,21251,0,Sorry, in the name of our sponsor,|the Core 2 Duo is an excellent processor.
21490,21599,0,Now, the same functionality can be achieved on this machine
21599,21738,0,the only difference being in the savings on the electricity bill.
21739,21979,0,This box you can see assembled here is called Open Client
21979,22376,0,this indicates the direction Genesi is heading to, |namely the market of thin clients
22377,22740,0,as this machine is enough, or more than enough to run an|RDesktop or a VNC
22740,23189,0,and we have deployed worldwide 10-30-50 Efikas|connected to a main server as clients
23189,23296,0,I think I will pass the hardware around and see for yourselves
23296,23379,0,but carefully please, as it's a working hardware|and we want to use it later in the presentation
23379,23599,0,so take it, I have removed the video card as it's a |standard PC videocard
23599,23809,0,So here it is
23809,23930,0,get in touch
23930,24178,0,Sorry for the interruption, go on
24178,24422,0,There are many projects, and I mention projects as there is a website
24422,24499,0,called www.powerdeveloper.org
24499,24612,0,it's the developer page of Genesi
24612,24705,0,one could apply for free Efika boards at a time
24705,24977,0,and almost the third of those projects was about a set-top-box like setup
24977,25260,0,you put it on top of the television, and with a remote|you can play music or video from a different server
25260,25373,0,or even play tv games
25373,25634,0,but don't think about console level graphics
25634,25887,0,but more like old c64 games, or even Quake III |can be played on some of these
25989,26142,0,My favorite is measuring tasks,
26142,26418,0,in this case a larger machine may itself influence the measurement|even with the heat it dissipates
26418,26601,0,in my case in soil chemistry PH measurement|depends on temperature
26601,26773,0,and external heat sources may influence the results
26773,26995,0,but if I place an Efika beside the experiment it has|relatively zero impact
27193,27302,0,In the background if there's a way I'd like to start up the macine
27302,27511,0,as I'd like to help Charlie to show what Efika is less great to use
27511,27554,0,and where comes MorphOS into the picture
27554,27647,0,Picture?|It's turned on.
27647,27720,0,Here it is... Wait...
27720,27950,0,Here it is.|An Open Suse if I'm not mistaken?
27950,28004,0,Yes, you're right it's an Open Suse.
28083,28155,0,Could you please turn off the light?
28155,28288,0,The first example will be an anti-example
28288,28641,0,We all know there's a mania of 3D desktops all around the world
28641,28747,0,Everything's transparent, cross fading, eye-candy and so on
28747,28912,0,And even Linux knows all this, and there are many youtube|videos watched with envy by both Windows and Mac users
28912,29016,0,Like rubber like windows and 3D rotating desktop on a cube
29016,29100,0,and it works on Efika too... but...
29100,29177,0,In five minutes we will see.
29177,29222,0,So now it's gnome booting...
29222,29292,0,Well, like a gnome, crawls in pretty slow
29292,29373,0,X switched resolution
29373,29454,0,Oh, we have a cursor, great!
29619,29853,0,To go on, before Genesi I was a system administrator
29853,29988,0,I use the Efika as a home server
29988,30209,0,Charlie already mentioned how little performance is enough for|pretty fine services
30210,30330,0,I have a similar Open Client at home
30330,30511,0,as a server for the two laptops, the other Efikas and the Pegasos
30511,30636,0,beta installations run always from this machine
30636,30747,0,even video through lan
30747,30802,0,and it's very pleasant to use
30802,31015,0,but still the laptop HDD is not a supersonic jetfighter
31015,31245,0,so for speed critical tasks I rather use an external USB HDD
31245,31335,0,Is it really starting?
31335,31446,0,It starts very slowly, I said it will take some time.
31446,31558,0,But isn't it time for the GDM first?|Yes it must be the GDM.
31558,31672,0,I have also a GDM, but by this time it should be running.
31672,31774,0,Another thing to mention
31774,31821,0,Efika can be purchased as a standalone motherboard
31821,31882,0,in the first times it could only be purchased that way
31882,31967,0,as it's not compatible with certain form factors
31967,32051,0,it's because of size and manufacturing considerations
32051,32095,0,it's cheaper to produce if smaller
32095,32134,0,but it's not size compatible with anything else
32134,32301,0,Many of you certainly heard of the VIA Epia
32301,32378,0,where VIA defined an ITX standard
32378,32468,0,which become their household standard
32468,32521,0,and it's a Micro ITX case
32521,32572,0,and it's my Efika
32572,32647,0,It was quite simple to modify the case to fit
32647,32770,0,all those managed to pass technics in elementary classes
32770,32869,0,will be able to do the same, it takes two|sheets of cardboard and a scissors
32869,33014,0,now as heat is a non-issue
33014,33110,0,I fixed the cardboard to the Mini ITX holes
33110,33188,0,and then placed the Efika on the cardboard
33188,33266,0,and that's all
33266,33370,0,it's perfectly stable, as it's very light and small
33370,33409,0,so it will stay in place
33434,33547,0,There's no additional HDD in there, so it was quite easy to do
33547,33669,0,Well? Will we have a Linux or has it given it up?
33669,33800,0,Over there it worked.
33800,33887,0,So it's the devil...
33887,34002,0,Can we make it to show off something without the XGL?
34002,34052,0,I think we'd rather...
34052,34145,0,Can you start the XFCE?
34145,34211,0,It seems we won't have it this time
34211,34241,0,why should it work?
34241,34419,0,But we could see that it starts incredibly slow
34419,34455,0,when it starts, that is
34455,34518,0,It's all about you can really rotate the cube.
34601,34737,0,And about that's it, as Gnome takes all 128 Mb of the ram
34737,34822,0,and we will see the real contrast with MorphOS
34822,34967,0,As on the same machine where Linux is absolutely struggles as a desktop
34967,35038,0,or it works with limitations
35038,35135,0,MorphOS performs with surprising speed.
35135,35176,0,In my opinion.
35176,35278,0,Even more so when we take into considerations the effects it performs.
35278,35450,0,Loves, loves not...
35450,35497,0,It seems better.
35497,35565,0,Artifact is your friend.
35805,35900,0,Now it's possible that effects would work on XFCE4 too?
35900,36002,0,Magic... XFCE...
36100,36240,0,Ooops...
36240,36382,0,Something works, but not everything...
36382,36536,0,Of course I wanted to show XFCE as something working fast
36536,36639,0,But it won't do... All right.
36697,36796,0,We also has to tell about the different Operating Systems
36796,36907,0,Charlie will tell about the MorphOS...
37049,37136,0,but apart from that there are a few more available
37136,37275,0,those in the still in development category
37275,37347,0,NetBSD, FreeBSD, Solaris
37347,37498,0,still haven't reached the single user mode
37498,37599,0,there are also some drivers missing
37600,37739,0,porting is about initialising or something like that
37739,37800,0,so there is still work to do
37800,37950,0,There are systems fully functional, but unfortunately|I couldn't bring you a working demo version
37950,37991,0,like QNX
37991,38298,0,Some of you may remember the 1 floppy QNX|with a web browser
38298,38418,0,and the same time when Explorer could be installed|from 27 floppy disks
38418,38484,0,this contained the whole Operating System
38546,38587,0,It's a real time operating system
38587,38740,0,it has significance in measuring
38740,38839,0,if all goes well I might use them for the same purpose
38839,38997,0,when labview port is finished
39086,39254,0,What's also ready?
39254,39452,0,Linux is more or less ready
39554,39754,0,there are drivers for all components of the Efika
39754,39910,0,even as a last, the soundcard is usable
39910,39985,0,practically everything works
39985,40098,0,the only issue is that while there is stable driver for everything
40098,40219,0,not everything is included in the official Linus kernel
40219,40280,0,the boys are still working on it
40419,40543,0,The different distributions 
40543,40783,0,Bplan in the old days, when Efika made it's first appearance
40783,40876,0,provided a Debian installer
40876,41158,0,that still works, but a manual is still required, what needs to be done|differently than the official install
41159,41392,0,also perfectly working is Gentoo with it's simple installer
41392,41479,0,so Gentoo works very fine
41479,41563,0,Gentoo also has the advantage
41563,41752,0,that every software can be optimized for the CPU
41752,42002,0,and it contains also that much as is really necessary
42002,42115,0,Well, that's my fault as I convinced Peter to show off XGL
42115,42227,0,and it made everything sluggish
42227,42649,0,the advantage of Gentoo also it's disadvantage, |as everything has to be compiled
42649,42739,0,and Efika is not the ideal platform for massive compilations like OpenOffice
42739,42845,0,which takes 9 hours even on a Pentium IV for me
42931,43102,0,but there are also Gentoo binaries available and they really fly
43102,43142,0,and there even the XGL flies
43142,43257,0,Also related that one of the Gentoo developers
43257,43350,0,Pieter Van den Abeele
43350,43551,0,he made us a Gentoo iso where everything truly flies on the Efika
43551,43631,0,but it's a 1.5 Gb DVD image
43631,43673,0,we received this morning at 9 am
43673,43780,0,and the server it's on performed only 20 kb/sec
43780,43855,0,so we were unable to download it in time
43855,43982,0,All those will come next Friday to the Amiga Club will be able to see it
44128,44339,0,Anything more?|I'd like to tell about a few other distributions
44440,44739,0,Also to Gentoo, if you have a powerful machine, cross compiling works,|so you can use it for compiling
44861,44931,0,Ubuntu is very popular, but unfortunately no installer is working yet to it
44931,45241,0,but Suse's installer is working like a charm
45241,45394,0,all that we have to fiddle with starting parameters a bit yet
45394,45464,0,but it's working fine
45464,45588,0,what you can see behind is a Suse
45588,45674,0,it's only sluggish because of XGL,
45674,45696,0,otherwise i'ts pretty fast
45696,45762,0,or used to be
45762,45996,0,Fedora, I haven't tried to be honest
46358,46556,0,Also good to know, that if someone intends to use it as a thin client
46556,46656,0,then with a minimum amount of hacking
46656,46756,0,the Edubuntu, if someone installed it on his Pegasos
46756,46828,0,or any other PowerPC based machine
46828,47015,0,then he can use the Efika as a thin client to it
47111,47111,0,I think that's all
47172,47304,0,If anyone has questions I will gladly answer them
47304,47422,0,Question, anyone?
47475,47542,0,I have the idea that I have a set up Debian on my machine
47543,47605,0,and we destroyed Peter's Suse presentation
47605,47651,0,making it so sluggish
47651,47749,0,we should try my Debian
47749,47833,0,as I've booted it several times and worked perfectly
47833,47927,0,with much more decent speed
48023,48023,0,But if Peter manages to do something 
48023,48073,0,to make XGL disappear
48073,48114,0,then we may wait even to his machine
48165,48262,0,I'd like to add to the PowerPC based machines
48262,48344,0,as it's a twilight zone for many of you
48344,48448,0,that despite these machines are not compatible
48448,48588,0,like there is a PowerPC processor in the PS3
48588,48640,0,and Linux is running on it
48640,48696,0,there is PPC in older Macintosh machines, also running Linux
48696,48766,0,PowerPC is in a PowerPC based Amiga
48766,48794,0,PowerPC is in the Pegasos
48794,48932,0,so in theory these machines ain't compatible
48932,49060,0,as the hardware, the rom is made of quite a wide variety
49060,49171,0,if you have already installed a Linux kernel
49171,49330,0,then... any of you back there haven't seen the Efika?
49330,49381,0,Or it was there already?
49493,49534,0,Let's start the Debian
49624,49624,0,All right,
49624,49724,0,when you have a Linux kernel, the same softwares will run everywhere
49724,49849,0,you compile it on the stronger machine
49849,49884,0,you simply copy it over
49884,49920,0,and it works
49920,50007,0,It applies to all the operating systems working on this machine
50007,50054,0,we have mentioned MorphOS
50054,50121,0,and just like on PowerPC Amigas
50121,50177,0,and the Pegasos
50177,50210,0,and the Efika the exact same softwares run
50210,50318,0,the binarias are the same
50318,50450,0,Only exceptions when a hardware has too little performance for the task
50450,50581,0,or it uses say the altivec in the G4 processor
50673,50760,0,It's obvious if it's missing from a processor it won't work
50760,50823,0,It's the same on PC
50823,50939,0,If a CPU extension isn't in the processor you want to run it on, it won't work
50939,51018,0,Is XGL a history now?
51018,51181,0,Oh my, XGL started!
51181,51408,0,Advance in technology is marvellous
51526,51617,0,Stemming from the fact that it's a developer Suse
51617,51744,0,and it's the OpenSuse updater which had problems
51744,51855,0,But it's no wonder as there's nothing to update with
51924,51959,0,Well? Well?
52060,52103,0,There's a clock!
52103,52152,0,Approx. 1-2 minutes
52152,52260,0,The window didn't fade out, is XGL running for sure?
52260,52352,0,Well, it's not sure...
52476,52522,0,Guess it isn't... right?
52666,52811,0,All right, let's connect the other Efika, and there we can show something.
52891,53011,0,We have volume adjuster also if I'm not mistaken
53044,53086,0,Menu!
53212,53285,0,Surprisingly fast - we don't have XGL, do we?
53441,53550,0,I'm surprised as I've used this machine
53550,53620,0,I mean mine with Linux
53620,53682,0,so it's... No XGL, right?
53682,53747,0,No XGL, all right
53792,54035,0,2 minutes break
54749,54814,0,The most interesting thing if I may tell it
54814,54865,0,that there's the scenecon's website
54865,54959,0,there was a beta test system
54959,55042,0,where we checked all modifications before going live
55042,55129,0,and the test server was the same Efika which is connected to the projector
55129,55205,0,we hope that we will also have picture
55205,55252,0,Blue, there is blue.
55252,55310,0,There's picture.
55310,55344,0,Wonderful.
55344,55427,0,That was Debian.
55586,55651,0,I managed to type in my password at first try, unprecedented.
55651,55732,0,I also have XFCE.
55732,55859,0,But it may show that it's also capable of endurable speed.
55859,55964,0,Same hardware?|Exact same hardware.
55965,56007,0,Exactly the same machine as before.
56007,56096,0,It takes this long to boot XFCE, I think it's bearable.
56096,56309,0,It's the case we wanted too much
56309,56375,0,adjusted Peter's machine accordingly, but managed to mess it up
56375,56662,0,Problem is, there's no net, so I can show off the browser
56662,56722,0,Iceweasel is tricky
56722,56763,0,while Opera is quite usable
56763,56832,0,as soon as it swaps itself in.
56832,56981,0,That seems to be usable.
56981,57082,0,Flock? I don't know.
57082,57144,0,I have never tried, maybe someone else.
57144,57189,0,I tried opera on it.
57189,57299,0,That seems to work.
57299,57343,0,There must be a scrollbar somewhere.
57343,57394,0,If I manage to find it.
57394,57437,0,There's mouse scroll.
57437,57491,0,As you can see, it works.
57491,57622,0,I could show unix sites on it, and we could see that it's not that dangerous.
57622,57690,0,It works pretty well.
57690,57800,0,XChat, practically I used to
57800,57914,0,run Opera and XChat
57914,58042,0,these are almost the same as on my Pegasos
58042,58103,0,there I managed to have XGL
58103,58159,0,but here I had neither time nor courage to try it
58159,58265,0,But as we managed to make it with Peter,|and the cube rotated and it worked
58265,58341,0,we thought that we may show it off, but with no luck
58341,58480,0,Well, if anyone has Linux questions, then gladly...
58480,58589,0,Peter, any Linux questions?
58589,58645,0,Sorry.
58645,58699,0,Anyone else?
58816,58949,0,XFCE terminal is pretty slow to start,|anyone not knowing XFCE
58949,59011,0,nowadays it's pretty popular
59011,59143,0,it's a lightweight desktop
59143,59258,0,there's Gnome and KDE everyone knows,
59258,59319,0,but both of them are pretty bloatwares
59319,59405,0,very big, very slow as usual
59405,59478,0,which is a no deal for a Core 2 Duo
59478,59560,0,but if we're talking about heat dissipation and so on
59560,59734,0,it means that it has to run on a 10 year old hardware
59734,59802,0,if it runs well on a 400 MHz Celeron it runs well here.
59802,59933,0,and XFCE is designed to run on low performance machines
59933,59995,0,and it helps Efika a lot
59995,60043,0,Gnome is extremely slow
60043,60183,0,as the two strips on the sides of the screen swallow up all the memory
60183,60229,0,it won't happen with XFCE
60229,60310,0,if you buy a relatively cheap used PC
60310,60383,0,and put an XFCE on it, it will be perfectly fine
60383,60516,0,my girlfriend's mother and sister works on PII 350s
60516,60600,0,low memory and XFCE and it's perfectly usable.
60600,60637,0,(cheese grinder)
60637,60709,0,There was money only for those
60709,60758,0,but it works like a charm
60758,60947,0,Well... Let's show MorphOS as it's much more appealing.
60947,61059,0,As everyone can see Linux and home, and see that it's slow.
61128,61175,0,Now let's see something that's fast.
61291,61382,0,For Linux it takes time to realize I turned it off.
61382,61456,0,Blue.
61456,61709,0,On the monitor there's a cursor...
61709,61764,0,Action!
61764,61842,0,That's my favorite Linux... Shutdown.
61842,61875,0,Best.
61875,62235,0,Still shutdowning? I thought that it's ready.
62460,62558,0,I pressed shutdown instead of restart, will someone push the button?
62558,62631,0,On the top of it.
62820,62899,0,Visibility vest team.
62980,63011,0,Well? Anything?
63126,63171,0,Let's show some openfirmware first.
63171,63285,0,It's a firmware standard.
63285,63392,0,It's something the Mac's have but Apple quite overpatched it.
63392,63447,0,And changed pretty much.
63447,63508,0,Something similar is in the Suns if I'm not mistaken.
63508,63537,0,What?
63537,63589,0,It's from Sun, Peter says.
63589,63747,0,Efika has something like that, but quite patched also.
63747,63840,0,We talked about that the motherboard|handles ordinary PC videocards
63840,63970,0,it's possible because the firmware has an X86 emulator
63970,64065,0,which can initialise the BIOS of the videocard
64065,64229,0,it's mostly used with Radeon and XGI
64229,64342,0,I have tried a range of cards, from old Ati Rages
64342,64438,0,to 9250 Radeons
64438,64568,0,and the firmware can initialise almost each of them
64568,64647,0,that's pretty smart
64647,64757,0,The thing I like in these firmwares|and dislike in PC bioses
64757,64824,0,I get an eye candy interface but can't do a thing
64824,64959,0,in these firmwares there's a prompt, and many things to adjust
64959,65108,0,like dumping it's settings
65108,65218,0,it seems stone age, but if you know what to do and how to do
65218,65299,0,it's far better than a menu/wizard wonder
65299,65410,0,it's quite simple to adjust, you set it once and touch never more
65470,65565,0,we can also list the content of hard disks
65565,65741,0,like this is the content of my MorphOS partition
65741,65800,0,<battery change>
65800,65862,0,before I passed the microphone
66610,66708,0,Back to the presentation
66708,66843,0,We have presented 1.4.5 many times in Hungary
66843,66943,0,and many of you know it well
66943,67130,0,But the 2.0, before called 1.5
67130,67250,0,but will most probably be released as 2.0
67250,67366,0,Is delayed for quite a long time, I won't discuss here
67366,67433,0,We could say many ugly things
67433,67583,0,But it seems people are grown up enough to bury the hatchets
67583,67758,0,and peace seems to be back
67758,67879,0,The results are numerous spectacular developments
67879,67933,0,Of which I'd like to show you one
67933,68059,0,Namely that the entire interface and windowing system of MorphOS has been rewritten
68059,68381,0,And produced 3D graphic card effects in a way which is still|fully compatible with 3.1 Workbench
68381,68443,0,and runs the same Amiga applications
68443,68512,0,Practically with no speed penalties
68512,68651,0,In some cases it's even faster than the previous system
68651,68806,0,Practically it is capable to perform 3D effects, which I will show you
69167,69254,0,In the background you can see that the window is transparent
69255,69369,0,It works in full realtime
69369,69528,0,And you can move windows in front and the background
69528,69678,0,It works flawlessly on a 400 MHz machine
69678,69774,0,It uses the acceleration of the Radeon inside
69774,69894,0,Let's open a few more windows to make it perfect
69894,69958,0,It was already there
69958,70002,0,Even a ramdisk...
70002,70100,0,System...
70100,70154,0,Where are the icons? Here are the icons.
70296,70361,0,Let's start an AmIrc - but there's still no net.
70442,70525,0,Maybe it's more impressive
70525,70624,0,It has quite a decent speed
70824,70934,0,And it works on Efika
70934,70988,0,We've already shown it on Pegasos
70988,71093,0,and there was a Presentation in Poland
71093,71205,0,the developer of this 3D layers, who is polish
71205,71290,0,he show it off
71290,71443,0,but here in Hungary and on Efika it's sure that I present it first
71443,71556,0,as till yesterday even I didn't have it
71556,71788,0,We also have to apologize, as for example|Emeric has made us a background
71788,71875,0,for this presentation I had no time to set
71875,71936,0,and copy from other machines
71936,72008,0,my only excuse is that this background is also made by him
72008,72111,0,so maybe this conflict will resolve
72111,72187,0,mitigating cause
72187,72412,0,Many told me the first thing they turn off in operating system|is this 3D transparent stuff
72412,72534,0,I think it's mainly because they use it the wrong way
72534,72739,0,I'm not an OSX fan
72739,72921,0,but OSX is a good example of how to implement transparency|and 3D and still remain pleasant to use
73029,73123,0,Not to mention that it's not for these pointless things
73123,73310,0,but it also enables alpha windows to fully integrate into the system
73310,73465,0,There are many more I could show you
73465,73538,0,but the number of programs on this machine is quite limited, as it's a beta machine
73538,73664,0,It was assembled in a hurry
73664,73717,0,Even the menu is transparent, true
73974,74022,0,Questions anyone?
74022,74105,0,Except for when will 2.0 be released, as I don't know
74105,74181,0,I will answer gladly
74234,74342,0,Come on let's hear the questions.
74395,74644,0,Can you use it as a full featured desktop like an Ubuntu? Is there an office suite?
74644,74895,0,We can use it as a normal desktop, but two things are missing |from Amiga like systems today, is an Office Suite and a decent browser
74895,75106,0,normal browser will hopefully resolve, as there's a KHTML port,|the same as Safari is using
75106,75224,0,Nokia browsers are using also in existing mobile phones
75224,75473,0,of that we have a half finished port which is hopefully will be finished
75473,75581,0,it's possible that it will be part of MorphOS 2.0
75581,75681,0,but if not, it will be downloadable separately
75681,75749,0,It's also developed by a polish guy
75749,75848,0,I can't show it as I had no time to copy it
75848,75914,0,but CSS and all works with it
75914,75947,0,Office Suite we don't have.
75947,76035,0,All I can say to that that personally I'm not using office...
76035,76114,0,not because there isn't one
76114,76277,0,yes, there are a few attempts, like Papyrus office
76278,76390,0,and older Amiga softwares, spreadsheets, etc.
76390,76421,0,those work
76421,76500,0,But it's Word 6 level at most
76500,76578,0,If my mother wants to write a letter it's sufficient
76578,76667,0,for basic stuff like that
76667,76739,0,Question.
76858,76933,0,Unicode handling?|There is.
76933,77065,0,It's just recently integrated
77065,77119,0,to be system level
77119,77194,0,truetype font support is there since ages
77194,77402,0,practically it's present, the operating system can be fully localised
77402,77502,0,it's here is english, but I myself make the hungarian translation
77502,77638,0,but there are many more languages, like russian, and far east languages
77638,77674,0,at least partially
77674,77883,0,and for those this support is a must, and it works, more and more
77956,77982,0,Other questions?
78075,78134,0,I'll show you a few things if I can
78237,78297,0,We have a prefs application if it shows up
78297,78344,0,It managed to open in real huge size
78344,78418,0,Come to the corner, kitty, kitty
78418,78489,0,But you can well see that it's transparent
78776,78836,0,There's it's tail... I catched it.
78836,78915,0,So there's a prefs application
78915,79008,0,Of which many think is horrible, but many just love it
79008,79135,0,I want to show the network prefs
79135,79300,0,There was no TCP/IP support in old 1.4.5 MorphOS
79300,79355,0,it doesn't mean that it couldn't have been used to surf the net
79355,79427,0,but you had to use older Amiga softwares
79427,79528,0,but in this one there's a default TCP/IP stack
79528,79623,0,and there's driver even for the Efika in there
79623,79742,0,Even there is sound, despite they are still working on it
79742,79816,0,There's picture, 3D support is working
79816,79866,0,there are 3D layers
79866,79898,0,there's ethernet
79898,80033,0,and it's fast, especially compared to our Linux performance
80033,80075,0,it's lightning fast
80129,80226,0,What do I use my Efika and my Pegasos under MorphOS?
80226,80382,0,I use it for writing emails, as it has an excellent email client
80382,80679,0,I can surf the web with the old Amiga browsers and this new beta
80679,80752,0,there's an excellent ssh console
80752,80799,0,even better than putty for windows
80799,80958,0,and I even start to like it more than Linux ssh
80958,81033,0,I think Laysoft could tell a lot about it
81034,81156,0,he used to develop PHP from under MorphOS
81156,81262,0,I develop that using ftpmount
81262,81301,0,Go grab a microphone
81301,81343,0,Come here Lay
81356,81507,0,Some applause please, he developed the party system which is quite outstanding
81685,81739,0,Ftpmount is a software
81740,81945,0,ftp addresses can be mounted as drives
81945,82004,0,and you can work on them
82004,82169,0,It's originally an Amiga software, but there's native MorphOS version
82169,82324,0,and it's almost like working on a local HDD
82324,82396,0,and it makes development real comfortable
82396,82646,0,and this paired up with remote control softwares makes it ideal for example Linux work
82646,82795,0,I personally like more to work this way than in front of a Linux box
82795,82913,0,For Amigans: yes, there is Ced
82990,83029,0,The Ced is a text editor
83029,83149,0,but Lay may correct me
83149,83202,0,it's like VI on Linux
83202,83273,0,just it's better than VI
83273,83334,0,but it's almost the same category
83334,83423,0,There's even a search window, look
83423,83567,0,And it's PPC native, fully ported
83724,83823,0,Light bubbles need no change. 
84048,84179,0,More questions?
84179,84235,0,How old is the captain?
84235,84266,0,42
84314,84384,0,One more thing - we showed off the Efika here
84384,84448,0,both with Linux and MorphOS
84448,84569,0,the Machine we shown around
84569,84672,0,here's the machine
84672,84828,0,and Genesi sent it to us for the presentation despite we already have Efikas
84828,84924,0,and I can offer this machine
84924,85120,0,for someone who has a worthy project, and Genesi agrees
85120,85216,0,as we all got our machines, both me and Peter
85216,85317,0,to develop on them and widen the software base
85317,85399,0,and making something positive using the machines
85399,85503,0,if anyone's interested, and would like to have this machine in my hand
85503,85682,0,then just apply and we will help in making the necessary steps
85682,85825,0,and even this way we would like to thank Genesi for their support
85825,85996,0,Full featured, with hard drive, video card, everything included
85996,86117,0,full documentation, it can be all yours
86117,86294,0,Following the presentation we can talk it over with those interested
86294,86473,0,Thank you for watching, and remaining with us despite our problems
86473,86523,0,And hope there were things you liked
86523,86750,0,And maybe some day you will find that an Efika is the ideal platform for some of your tasks